Corretores Forex MT4 ECN Além do MT4 ECN, alguns corretores Forex também podem oferecer contas regulares não ECN. Para evitar erros, gaste um minuto extra para comparar tipos e condições de contas em sites de corretores. Sua conta de ECN MT4 deve ter condições como: ECN, execução de mercado, spreads variáveis, taxa de comissão e nunca deve ter palavras-chave como Execução instantânea, spreads fixos, sem comissão A lista de corretores que oferecem contas MT4 ECN: Use Shift para classificar várias colunas Você conhece outro corretor MT4 ECN Forex? Por favor, sugira adicionando um comentário abaixo. Corretores com plataformas autônomas MT4 e ECN: FXDD - plataforma separada MT4, ECN (Power Trader - Currenex). Ikon GM - separar o MT4, plataforma separada da ECN (Ikon Viking - Currenex). MBCFX - plataforma separada separada do ECN (Currenex) de MT4. MT4 ECN - como funciona A plataforma MT4 nunca foi destinada a ser usada para negociação ECN. Foi criado como um software de mesa de negociação. Para fazer com que o MetaTrader4 apoiasse a negociação ECN (nível 2), os corretores de Forex precisavam implementar uma noiva para uma verdadeira plataforma ECN. Com a ponte MT4-ECN, uma negociação de nível 2 é possível. O Currenex é um exemplo de uma plataforma de negociação avançada criada para a verdadeira negociação ECN. Com integração MT4 / Currenex, um corretor é capaz de oferecer uma interface de uma plataforma MT4 familiar com recursos extras disponíveis apenas através da Currenex, como acesso a taxas interbancárias, liquidez avançada, velocidade de execução de pedidos rápidos, acesso aos dados de profundidade de mercado, cliques, pedidos OCO e muito mais. Vantagens comerciais MT4 ECN você vai negociar em um verdadeiro ambiente de mesa sem negociação enquanto ainda usa a plataforma MT4 você obtém spreads mais competitivos Precisão de 5 dígitos você pode ver e clicar no melhor lance e pedir ofertas de múltiplos provedores de liquidez quando houver um preço solicitado no sistema, você sempre será preenchido sem re-quotes você pode escalpelamento ou comércio de notícias sem restrições que você pode negociar com seu MT4 Expert Advisor pendentes ordens podem ser colocadas dentro do spread seus pedidos pendentes, pára metas de lucro não são visíveis para corretores, bancos ou qualquer outro participante do mercado até que seja preenchido. MT4 STP vs MT4 Instant O documento da Boston Technologies sobre a integração do MT4 ECN / STP pode ser baixado e leia aqui: MT4STPvsMT4Instant. pdf MT4 ECN com um clique de negociação Todas as plataformas MT4 / MT4-ECN agora são capazes de suportar negociações com um clique. A opção tornou-se possível com um novo MT4 build 482 lançado pela MetaQuotes. Seu corretor o terá pré-configurado ou você poderá executar um EA. Faça o download de um clique de negociação EA. OneClickExpert. exe Para mostrar um painel de negociação de cliques no MT4, use AltT ou clique no ícone no canto superior esquerdo ou selecione-o no menu de contexto. Corretores Forex MT5 ECN Existem alguns corretores, que já abrem contas MT5 ECN ao vivo: lista de corretores MT5 ECN Fxkeys para arruinar sua conta 1 Por JLTrader 9 de setembro de 2014 Atualização de maio de 2016. Os Fxkeys se registraram no LuckScout. Nome diferente, mesmo lixo. Este é um ótimo exemplo de por que ter meu próprio site para expressar opiniões e pensamentos livremente é importante para mim. Eu estava ciente de fxkeys, um site dirigido por um Chris Pottorff com supostamente 23 anos de experiência em negociação. A julgar pelos artigos8217 títulos e os comentários deixados pelos leitores é destinado a novatos. Por enquanto, tudo bem. Os problemas começaram depois que eu li alguns desses artigos e encontrei muitas informações ruins e mentiras descaradas. Tentei mostrar isso em alguns comentários, mas adivinhe, eles não foram aprovados. Você pode vê-los esperando por moderação na imagem abaixo: Depois de um tempo eles simplesmente desapareceram. Eu peço a qualquer comerciante que tenta aplicar qualquer coisa vista nesse site para pensar duas vezes. Apenas em um artigo há várias falsidades, como evidenciado não apenas pelo fato de meus comentários terem sido removidos, mas também pelo senso comum. Tomar conselhos de alguém que tão descaradamente mentiras é uma maneira de arruinar sua conta. 1. Abrimos uma conta 1000 e começamos a negociar com ela usando nossas configurações de comércio compartilhado. A conta se transformou em 100.000 em 14 meses. Essa foi uma grande conquista, não por transformar 1000 em 100.000, mas por causa da lição que aprendemos. Não estou dizendo que isso seja possível, dado um ambiente comercial muito favorável (pense na bolha das pontocom). É muito improvável. 2. Um de nós que estava acostumado a ter uma conta de negociação de um milhão de dólares, retirou o dinheiro e deixou apenas 10.000 na conta. Para ele, que costumava ter uma conta de um milhão de dólares e obter um lucro razoável todos os meses durante vários anos, 10.000 não significavam nada. Negociar com uma conta de 10.000 não tinha nenhum risco para ele. Ele transforma sua conta de 10.000 em um milhão a cada 2-3 anos. 8230. Ele elevou seu capital comercial para um milhão de dólares poucas vezes até agora. Isso é o que muitos dos outros membros da nossa equipe estão fazendo, mas apenas com diferentes quantias de dinheiro e tamanhos de contas. Isto é o que tenho feito há vários anos também. Este é o lugar onde o enredo engrossa e as besteiras se tornam reais. Ninguém pode crescer uma conta 100x vezes a cada 2-3 anos. Nem mesmo uma pessoa, muito menos várias como esse cara está sugerindo. Qualquer pessoa com metade do cérebro não teria dificuldade em enxergar essas mentiras. Nesse ponto, não parece ser uma fraude completa, já que não parece haver nenhum serviço à venda. Mas cuidado, com esse tipo de declarações, meu palpite é que temos uma fraude na tomada de decisões. Compartilhe este: 213 pensamentos sobre ldquo Os Fxkeys para arruinar sua conta 1 rdquo Oi, Chris Pottorf doesn8217t existe. Chris Pottorf é um apelido de Vahid Chaychi, o fundador da Forexoma Brokerage, em seguida, scam forex. Fxkeys pertence a V. Chaychi. forexpeacearmy / forum-forex / blacklisted-folder-unresolved-scam-cases - / 27176-forexoma-com. html Olá, eu li o link, mas eu não sei como você concluiu que Vahid Chaychi é realmente Chris Pottorf I8217ve lendo artigos sobre fxkeys e não encontrei nada suspeito. No entanto, os artigos que JLtrader menciona são muito estranhos e de fato fazem você acreditar que algo não é bom quando alguém engana pessoas assim. Ele está tramando algo que sabe. Os artigos diários parecem legítimos e principalmente enfatizam sua abordagem simplista da negociação, que pode ser válida. I8217m não com ou contra fxkeys, eu apenas acho confuso. Enfim, sendo o mundo do forex tão cheio de porcaria, acho melhor mantê-lo em alerta. A fkxeys é um dos poucos sites que não tenta vender nada, a principal estratégia de negociação anunciada é baseada em poucas posições de swing escolhidas entre os longos TFs e com base em uma estrita estratégia de MM. Eu concordo que os dois artigos relatados aqui são um pouco otimistas, mas eu ainda tenho que ver uma tentativa de escória de Chris (seja ele quem for). Talvez ele só esteja tentando motivar seus seguidores a serem pacientes e não exagerarem. Cuidados para pesar com mais informações Você acha que o sistema de negociação dele está falho? Eu sou apenas um novato em forex e não tenho nenhuma conexão com fxkeys, apenas curioso. Nos fóruns, mais de uma vez: alguém descobre que ele é um negociante rico de sucesso (ou parte de um grupo), obtém seguidores constantes de quase todos os novatos e depois os detém, seja vendendo algum lixo ou algo pior do que o seu dinheiro. Eu não conheço sua estratégia e, à luz de sua desonestidade, não tenho nenhum desejo de descobrir oi, poderia compartilhar alguns outros sites de FX que não pretendem vender nada, como você mencionou? Concordo que esse idiota chris pottorf é vahid chaychi . Ele enganou muitas pessoas confiantes na Forexoma (eu não me apaixonei por ela) e estava todo exposto no site do Exército Suíço. Seu estilo de escrita é, de início, semelhante ao que lembro da Forexoma (o inglês não é sua primeira língua e ele geralmente é péssimo) e acredito que lendo alguns desses artigos, alguns são copiados e colados de coisas que ele escreveu há uma década. No começo da Forexoma eu costumava ler esses artigos com muita expectativa, já que, como ele já estava fazendo aqui, havia um ar constante de. 8220trading é easy8221, 8220don8217t desista ou desanime82308221 8220Me e meus amigos do nosso clube secreto começaram exatamente como você e estamos fazendo milhões82308221 Este idiota acha que ele é realmente inteligente. Ele lutaria contra pessoas que lhe pedissem provas implacáveis (embora insultando-as por sua estupidez). Não dizem que não o avisei. O idiota por trás disso é vahid chaychi8230 Mais cedo ou mais tarde o jogo vai mudar e ele vai ganhar seu dinheiro. Ainda bem que nunca lhe paguei um centavo. Estava com o coração partido e incrédulo quando soube da notícia de que ele enganara todos aqueles seguidores de confiança que ele tinha. Se chris pottorf é uma pessoa real e um comerciante bem sucedido, ele deve fornecer com prova completa e legítima das reivindicações que MAKES8230.Name, registros de conta, endereço de operação, números de telefone onde ele pode ser alcançado, skype acesso a ele pessoalmente8230 etc, etc , etc8230 caso contrário he8217s um CON para mim e deve ser o mesmo para você. Sim. Eu sei que isso é grátis agora8230 Eu só não acredito que vai ficar assim por muito tempo. Obrigado pela leitura, espero que você leve a sério esse aviso8230 e boa sorte com sua negociação. Se todo mundo, meu punho vai para este site, e um pedaço de escrita n frutífero para mim, kep-se postando esses tipos de artigos ou opiniões. Olá meu amado, quero dizer que este post é incrível, ótimo escrito e inclui quase todas as informações importantes. I8217d gostaria de ver posts extras como este. Eu também senti que havia algo suspeito sobre FXKeys embora eu não tenha conhecimento das pessoas que o executam. Eu olhei para tentar ver qual era o ângulo. A única coisa que encontrei foi que eles oferecem uma 8216toolbar8217 para download, convidando você a 8220Instalar a barra de ferramentas FxKeys no seu navegador da Internet e estar entre os primeiros a receber os sinais de negociação automaticamente.8221 Eu não sei se o site é legítimo, mas gostaria Tenha em atenção que as barras de ferramentas do Web Browser são frequentemente utilizadas como um método para distribuir malware. Nesse ponto, é difícil dizer se esse cara Chris tem uma agenda oculta ou não. Muito provavelmente ele faz. Mas não foi lançado. Até agora tudo é gratuito, comentários diários que são úteis e às vezes outros comentários com excesso de realismo irreal parecem não ter outro propósito além de atrair novos novatos a acreditar que se tornar milionário através do forex é apenas uma questão de virar os dedos (e seguir seu conselho, claro). O que realmente me incomoda é que há um grupo de idiotas que parecem acreditar que ele é algum tipo de deus e o consideram como tal. Eu acho que 8217 é perigoso para pessoas ingênuas e estúpidas que seguem qualquer um sem pensar um pouco. Em todos os países, vemos essas pessoas seguindo religiões sem motivo. Bem, o tempo dirá se a nossa intuição está certa ou errada. Bem, antes de começar a acusar as pessoas de boa vontade, provavelmente a melhor maneira é abrir uma conta de demonstração e negociar usando sua estratégia. Se ele realmente funciona de forma consistente ao longo de um período de tempo, então talvez ele realmente não tenha má intenção. Simplesmente porque não lhe serve nenhum propósito de lhe dar uma habilidade efetiva se ele realmente pretende enganá-lo, já que você já pode pegar seu próprio peixe. Eu acho que não importa se um site é legítimo ou fraudulento, as pessoas sempre vão escrever posts sobre eles. Eu mesmo sou membro do FxKeys e até agora não encontrei nada suspeito sobre isso. Chris não pede dinheiro nem taxas de adesão, tudo o que ele faz é de graça. E sua análise, quando lida, é realmente muito boa, você não pode argumentar com a análise quando faz sentido. Eu também escrevi um artigo para FxKeys que foi publicado recentemente e eu fiz isso a pedido de outros membros, não Chris. Você pode dar uma olhada em si mesmo e me dizer se acha que é uma farsa ou uma boa informação de um comerciante da vida real 8211 artigo é chamado 8216 como trocar a barra de dentro false break ou fakey8217 Como mencionado em outro comentário que fiz, eu faça regularmente mais de 20 por mês ou mais. Uma negociação que recentemente foi feita em FxKeys (gbp / cad shooting star com confirmação e breakout de banda de bollinger) gerou mais de 1000 lucros em algumas semanas. Com 1 risco, isso é um retorno de 10 apenas em uma negociação. Caras que negociam por bancos e fundos com bilhões, etc., não negociam com alavancagem, e é por isso que o desfiladeiro soros só faz 30 por ano. É impossível negociar com alavancagem quando você está tomando bilhões em posições. O fato de você dizer que faz 20 ou mais por mês regularmente me mostra claramente que você é: 1. um novato que arrisca demais e teve uma boa sorte até agora 2. um mentiroso Sobre aquele nome manco 8216fakey8217 8211 it8217s copiado de Nial Fuller8230don8217t até me iniciou nesse personagem. Eu pensei que você poderia dizer isso, é por isso que eu adicionei um comércio recentemente tomado em gbp / cad 9 de janeiro de 2015 no diário. Com 1 risco (o que não é muito), você estaria em um grande lucro agora, no final do dia, a matemática não é mentira. E sim, o nial fuller ensina o fakey, mas o artigo que publiquei, que, na minha opinião, você não leu, não é nada parecido com coisas de nial fullers, é realmente muito bom. Mas de qualquer maneira, eu concordo que o nial não é a melhor coisa desde o pão fatiado. É por isso que eu escrevi o artigo, para ensinar as pessoas a negociar barreiras falsas de forma adequada e gratuita, para que não dessem ao Nial 300. Apenas economizei dinheiro de novos operadores que poderiam ter desembolsado para algum curso, então não acho que seja justo para me chamar de novato e dar um tempo difícil às FxKeys, mas todos podem ter uma opinião que é ótima também. Leia o meu artigo que eu postei em FxKeys JLTrader e me diga se este ensino gratuito não é útil para iniciantes Aguardando a sua resposta Hey Hey Hey Pessoal, acalme-se, vamos ser homem de profissionais. Somos traders que experimentaram uma série de prejuízos antes de se tornarem bem-sucedidos, eu tenho negociado por 3 anos agora, e eu não pago nada pela assinatura, mas apenas lendo artigos da FXKEYS. Ninguém pode dizer que estou errado porque eu li ou o FXKEYS está errado porque eu não sei quem é o Chris, não o sigo, mas eu apenas GOSTO de ler o que ele escreve e isso está ampliando meu conhecimento FX. Eu posso ler qualquer artigo para qualquer um e estou lendo esta batalha para você 2 e você está me fazendo rir cara. Os Let8217s se amam e ajudam todos os iniciantes a saber que o forex demanda tempo e esforço para dominar. Deus abençoe vocês dois Guys baseado no sistema de negociação fxkeys eu consegui transformar uma conta 250 em 1645 em 12 meses. Chris é legítimo ou você gosta ou não. Ótimo. Então, por que você não trabalha limpando minha casa por um ano inteiro e eu lhe darei 2000. É melhor lidar com isso olhando para os gráficos, não é? Então você escreveu um artigo sobre uma configuração de castiçal que não é nova na internet e você usou um nome coxo para isso que Fuller popularizou. Você quer uma medalha agora? O problema não é essa configuração em si, que pode ser lucrativa como parte de um plano de negociação bem pensado, o problema é que você continua repetindo que tem esses tipos de retornos que levam os novatos a ter uma idéia totalmente errada sobre a negociação. Sabe, você está me insultando com o exemplo do gbp / cad. Um negócio não tem nada a ver com a sua reivindicação de 20 ou mais retornos médios mensais. Eu vou parar de responder a você, pois isso não nos leva a lugar nenhum. Só fui sobre esses retornos porque você disse que era impossível e implícito que qualquer um que alegue tê-los é um mentiroso etc. É justo, ciao é possível fazer 20 por mês ou até mais, pare de chorar bitchass nigga, se você não puder fazer qualquer dinheiro com forex não significa que os outros não podem. há muitas pessoas que negociam forex para viver. article on fxkeys realmente ajudá-lo a se tornar um comerciante rentável e com um pouco de paciência você pode ser rentável CONSISTENTEMENTE. todo mês. E eu sei que esse Chris é um homem falso, porque eu não consigo encontrar nada sobre ele, e, 8230 e fxkeys tem algo a ver com Vahid, MAS EU NÃO GIVA A FODA. Por enquanto é tudo gratuito e artigo me ajudando a se tornar um trader rentável a cada mês, se alguma coisa mudar e eu tiver que pagar em fxkeeys eu vou deixar o site, mas o conhecimento que eu aprendo você não pode me levar. Oi, Quando eu vi debate sobre fxkeys aqui e interessado nesse tópico. Na verdade, eu costumo visitar o site e achar bom. Mas é muito interessante que alguém tenha dito que não existe alguém chris pottorrf. Isso não é real. Depois disso, eu realmente me pergunto sobre isso e pesquiso na rede quase 3 horas e minha conclusão é sim que é possível que não haja uma pessoa real chris pottorrf. O dono do site parece o vahid chyachie. Eu tenho uma pista suficiente para isso 8230. Mas ainda assim o site não parece perigoso revese parece útil ainda 8230. Mas se o proprietário do site é vahid porque ele precisa manter em segredo a sua identidade. Situações estranhas 8230 .. Há uma contradição real aqui. Chris certamente coloca muita informação de graça e não responde a linguagem insultuosa ou irrisória e é justa o suficiente. Não sei qual é o seu ângulo ou talvez ele goste de ser um mentor para o bem comum que sabe. Certamente o torna único. A única coisa que eu questionei foi que todos os seus vídeos do u-tube usavam um robô como voz ao invés de uma pessoa real e eu me perguntava por quê. No entanto, o seu inglês pode não ser tão bom. Parece ser verdade que sua identidade parece obscura. Eu digo apenas prová-lo ou não. Se sua análise e sinais derem frutos, então esse é o único teste de que você precisa. Eu também suspeitei que o Chris está de alguma forma ligado ao grupo Forexoma através do seu plano forex. Ele oferece também no FXkeys. Eu estava ciente desta planilha da Forexoma e a reconheci imediatamente. Oi a todos, devo admitir que tenho lido os artigos publicados diariamente em fxkeys depois de tudo o seu livre e eu tere não é nenhum risco para mim, como eu não vou pagar por nada, mas em um artigo recente intitulado 8220dealing com disapointment em forex tradinge8221 o seguinte minha atenção e eu me pergunto como poderíamos alertar essas pessoas que podem estar em risco em breve, por favor leia o artigo e dê-nos a sua opinião esta é a parte que chamou minha atenção. 8220Estamos trabalhando para criar algumas ferramentas excepcionais em FxKeys que podem ajudá-lo a se tornar um operador consistentemente lucrativo, livre de riscos. Eu falei sobre isso em alguns dos meus comentários e os convidei para adivinhar quais são essas ferramentas, mas nenhum de vocês foi capaz de fazer isso até agora, e eu tenho certeza que você nunca será capaz de fazê-lo (embora eu queira você continue fazendo isso porque é muito divertido), porque nunca foi feito por nenhum outro site antes. Existem tantos sites de negociação Forex na Internet com serviços como fóruns, calandras, análises de mercado, cursos de negociação gratuitos ou pagos, e Estes são realmente bons, mas a maioria dos investidores Forex precisa de algo mais do que isso para deixar seu medo e ganância para trás. Chegar ao seu destino, que está se tornando um comerciante consistentemente rentável, o mais rapidamente possível. Mais de 95 do trader de Forex perdem. Não podemos e não vamos mudar essa equação, porque nem todos nos seguirão. Mas, podemos tornar muito mais fácil para aqueles que nos seguem e são sérios para se tornarem bem sucedidos. A boa notícia é que essas ferramentas serão oferecidas gratuitamente e nós não vamos fazer um único centavo delas. Espero que possamos lançá-los o mais rápido possível. Por favor, fiquem atentos e sigam-nos nos FxKeys de perto, porque você tem que estar presente quando as ferramentas estiverem prontas para serem oferecidas. Eles não podem ser oferecidos a um número ilimitado de usuários porque há uma capacidade limitada. Então, por favor, esteja por perto e pronto para agir quando for a hora certa. Em breve, convidaremos você a se inscrever em uma conta em FxKeys. Também fóruns de FxKeys serão lançados também. Você precisará fazer o login em sua conta sempre que quiser deixar um comentário ou postar nos fóruns. Mais uma vez, as ferramentas de que falei são todas gratuitas e não vamos cobrar nada. Eu tenho que enfatizar isso por algumas razões importantes.8221 Eu acho que se você não confia nisto, não o use, uma vez que você tomou essa decisão, não há necessidade de falar mais sobre isso. Eu usei muitas informações sobre FxKeys e isso me tornou mais lucrativo e um melhor trader, então eu suponho que seja para o indivíduo. Se você acha que há uma fraude envolvida, não pague por ela ou assine-a. Basta usar as informações e dizer que você pode aumentar sua conta é ridículo. Um trader com quem eu trabalhei transformou de 1.000 a 33.000 em um mês para provar que isso pode ser feito, embora ele tenha trabalhado para o JPMorgan por 20 anos. Todos dirão que não pode ser feito até que alguém o faça. É absolutamente incrível como as pessoas ingênuas podem ser. Talvez a esperança de se tornarem milionários como seu autoproclamado guru de escolha apenas os deixe ver o que eles querem ver. Eu acho que as pessoas têm que suportar e experimentar por si mesmas o que é a realidade da negociação e por que o Forex é tão cheio de porcaria. Desculpe pelo seu valioso tempo. Resposta interessante, não tenho certeza i8217m ingênuo. Eu estudei Forex por um par de anos agora e estou no lucro e sou consistente por isso dizer que o Forex está cheio de porcaria é ingênuo. Por interesse você ganhou dinheiro com Forex ou teve sucesso. Também FxKeys é ótimo para o conteúdo e para aprender sobre consistência, mas eu nunca me inscrevi em algo que eu achei que fosse uma farsa. Eu sei que você pode ganhar milhões com isso, mas eu nunca recebo minhas informações de alguém que afirma que isso pode ser feito em um mês. Oi, parece que vai chegar em breve. :-)) 8220Este programa não só será oferecido 100 grátis, mas também permitirá que você negocie Forex e ganhe dinheiro real sem arriscar nenhum dinheiro. É incrível, e é o que nenhum outro site / empresa fez para os traders de Forex até agora. Imagine quantas pessoas se apressarão para participar desse programa. Há uma capacidade limitada para este programa e estamos nos aproximando desse limite. Então você tem que fazer o seu melhor para não perder o trem, e entrar antes de fecharmos as portas8221 Esse cara é insano .. Jan Schick Prague 8220Fazer um lucro de 20 meses para quem realmente passa pelos estágios de aprendizado é um pedaço de bolo. Quando eu comecei a escrever sobre FxKeys e eu falei sobre como fazer esse lucro, algumas pessoas criticaram que não é possível fazer esse lucro todo mês e traders profissionais dizem que mesmo 5 lucro mensal é demais. No entanto, como eu continuei escrevendo em FxKeys, os traders que me seguiram precisamente admitiram que é possível fazer até mesmo 30 lucros a cada mês apenas tomando as configurações de 100 pontos.) 8221. Não é difícil provar que suas configurações nunca fizeram 20 por mês. Houve vários meses em que ele não teve sequer uma configuração. Para Chris Pottorff (Vahid Chaychi) 22 é 22. Tenha cuidado para que seu novo 8220free8221program não seja o programa mais caro em sua vida. Não pense que ele escreve todos os dias de graça. Ele quer que milhares de traders atinjam 8220 a 822 milhões de dólares. Pergunte ao 8220Chris8221 por que oi não usou sua própria voz em seus webinars. Pergunte a ele sobre Vahid Chaychi, ele deve conhecê-lo porque os artigos publicados em FxKeys são escritos por Vahid. Eu sou um seguidor do FXKeys e até agora tudo bem, estou aprendendo coisas. Eu acho que nós teremos que ver se todas as acusações neste site são válidas ou não. Na verdade, alguém perguntou diretamente a ele no site se ele estava de alguma forma relacionado a Vahid Chaychi e ele receberia sua resposta se ele postasse a pergunta ou não. Desde que li, ele postou. Ele não confirmou ou negou a questão, mas descartou-a como uma distração não relevante para o conteúdo do site. Se ele tivesse dito 8220seu eu sou he8221 JD teria acusado ele de fraude e se ele negasse JD teria o acusado de mentir, você não iria? Então ele desviou muito bem que eu pensei e ainda permitia o posto. Claro que ele não parece ter uma identidade aberta como JD eu presumo, ou Jarratt Davis, que dá vídeos e endereços abertos, etc, mas para mim o júri ainda está fora. Curiosamente, fiz-lhe uma pergunta não relacionada sobre uma questão técnica e citou outro site e ele pediu desculpas em não permitir, mas disse que estava OK deixar um link para a citação que ele fez. Eu anoto aqui JD você permite diretamente citações de material de seu site. Você acha que pode estar violando direitos autorais? Ele estava cauteloso com isso, talvez você devesse ser apenas um pensamento, não tenho nada contra o seu site. na verdade, acho que os debates são uma coisa boa. Cheers, Linz I8217m não infringe nenhum direito autoral, desde que eu mencione a fonte e use o material citado para comentá-lo. It8217s chamado política de uso justo, mais detalhes aqui en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Fairuse Desculpe JL Trader Eu te chamei JD por engano Um sério aviso sobre isso Chris Pottorff, ele não é uma pessoa real. Atrás da tela é Vahid Chaychi Esse cara correu um serviço de corretagem Forexoma e scammed milhares de comerciantes de dinheiro. Antes da Forexcoma, copiei toda a página da Forexcoma. O layout do site FXkeys é exatamente o mesmo. Este programa gratuito que ele oferece é o primeiro gancho antes que ele exija um pagamento ou ofereça um serviço de corretagem. Fique alerta Eu acho que vamos ver o que acontece então. Até agora ele disse que tudo é de graça e também afirmou que não tem planos de abrir uma corretora. Eu acho que JL Trader está certo. FXKeys pertence a Vahid Chaychi disfarçando sob o nome de Chris Pottorff. O link abaixo é a imagem que consegui capturar no site. Aparentemente, há algum problema em seu site FXKeys hoje e conta todo mundo membro está mostrando como Chris Pottorff e surpreendentemente o nome de Vahid Chaychi aparece também. Eu acho que JL Trader está certo. FXKeys pertence a Vahid Chaychi disfarçando sob o nome de Chris Pottorff. O link abaixo é a imagem que consegui capturar no site. Aparentemente, há algum problema em seu site FXKeys hoje e conta todo mundo membro está mostrando como Chris Pottorff e surpreendentemente o nome de Vahid Chaychi aparece também. Nunca notei minha conta ou qualquer outra conta de 8217s com FXKeys tendo o nome de Chris Portorff8217s. Mas houve na semana passada alguém postando como Portorff Chris que foi rapidamente desafiado e seus posts foram retirados com aviso prévio para ele e para tudo o que isso iria acontecer, o que eu achava que era transparente. Eu acho que o contribuinte pode ter sido até um pouco de prejuízo desde a discussão geral foi sobre corretores e que é uma área sensível. Eu não pude encontrar sua captura de tela de Vahid Chaychi no site FXKeys nem John. Para todos os interessados, sou cético em relação aos motivos de alguém em qualquer site, porque o Forex é um pool de tubarões. No entanto, até que alguém venha com melhores provas do que foi postado aqui até agora para mim o júri ainda está fora e estou aprendendo muito sobre Forex no site FXKeys que eu não encontrei em outro lugar. Eu não estou procurando por um guru, mas ao mesmo tempo eu sei que é difícil aprender forex por conta própria, então eu entendo como é dado livremente. Assim seja, e o tempo dirá, mas eu agradeço pelas suas advertências e todos os outros estão alertas, o que é mais válido no mundo do Forex. Você vai FXKeys Fórum e olha para o tópico: 8220Security Issue Estou recebendo acesso estranho ao meu perfil8221 Um dos membros lá postar 3 fotos. Abra toda a imagem e você verá o que quero dizer (especialmente pic 2.png). Espero que Vahid não tenha removido as fotos antes de você ir lá e verificar. Obrigado John eu vi que apenas agora, as imagens ainda estão lá. O mistério se aprofunda, mas ainda não provou demais, já que alguém poderia estar causando problemas, quem sabe Mas, novamente, todos nós temos que ser cuidadosos neste mundo intrigante e perigoso do Forex e não sermos tão estúpidos. Enquanto isso, eu estou tentando manter uma mente aberta. Felicidades pelo seu alerta. Linz, bom que você tenha visto isso. Apenas tenha cuidado e não caia em nenhum de seus golpes no futuro. Você pode ver o link abaixo: forexpeacearmy / public / review / forexomapage2 Alguns dos comentários são feitos pelo colega que admira e confia tanto nele. Sim, eu vi aquilo. Você está certo John, se Chris Pottorff realmente é Vahid Chaychi, então há perguntas sérias a serem feitas, então tomo nota dos posts aqui, e é estranho que o nome apareça em seu site e passe por escrutínio passado. No entanto, pode ser uma sabotagem maliciosa, já que os corretores de marketing não gostam de suas advertências sobre eles. Então, enquanto isso, eu nego o julgamento por enquanto. Felicidades não acho que seja uma sabotagem. Para ser capaz de sabotar um site, você precisa de um hacker para fazer isso e por que um market maker ciumento quer contratar um hacker para fazer isso? Não faz sentido, não? A maneira que eu vejo é que o site é da Vahid, que disfarça sob o nome de Chris Pottorff e porque esse site ainda está sob grande desenvolvimento para suportar o novo programa do it8217s, erros na codificação podem acontecer e ele exibe o nome Vahid involuntariamente. Como você pode ver o problema do site mostrando o nome de Chris Pottorff não é relatado por apenas 1 pessoa, mas poucos deles. Aqueles que relataram seu nome exibindo Chris Pottorff em vez de si mesmos são aqueles que se registram usando apenas seu e-mail e senha, enquanto aqueles que se registram usando sua conta de mídia social como facebook mostram o nome de Vahid8217s (como o cara que postou o problema). O que significa que Vahid e Chris são a mesma pessoa. Esta não é a primeira vez que o problema aconteceu com o site, antes que também haja alguns problemas com os sistemas de pontos que não são mostrados corretamente. O problema é que a maioria das pessoas lá são novatas em forex e elas não sabem sobre Vahid. Você pode ver em todos os comentários perguntando quem é Vahid. Alguns deles fizeram o google, mas ainda acreditam como você que alguém está tentando seqüestrar o site. Obrigado pela sua análise detalhada John e você podem estar certos, mas eu nunca disse o que acredito, exceto que um é inocente até que se prove a culpa. Por isso, simplesmente publiquei perguntas e talvez não sejam crenças, que é o que devo fazer quando não conheço toda a história e as pessoas têm que decidir por si mesmas. Estou ciente de que as pessoas muitas vezes ingenuamente seguem gurus e eu posso entender isso porque ele parece possuir uma considerável profundidade de compreensão e experiência em Forex e continuamente suprido sem nenhuma taxa com respostas para todos. Por essa razão, estou mantendo uma mente aberta, porque a análise é útil e até agora seu personagem ainda está para se transformar no canalha que você acredita que ele seja, mas estou feliz em ouvir você e os outros e trocar comentários sobre este site também que é o que o Forex precisa para se manter saudável. Se você realmente se sente tão forte, então por que você não entra no site e faz seus próprios posts nos fóruns e vê como você se sai, porque todo esse tópico é bem sério Você sabe como o site funciona, não é como uma censura na China. o governo assume um controle total sobre o conteúdo da Internet que deve ser exibido ao cidadão. Todos os comentários que você postar em seu artigo diário serão censurados primeiro (aguardando aprovação do moderador), comentários que de alguma forma vão contra o seu ensino ou causarão confusão entre os membros serão censurados (ex: o cara com o nome Portoff Chris que causou problemas no fórum. Esse cara fez um problema porque ele estava chateado que seu comentário sobre o artigo de Chris foi censurado). Se I8217m tentando postar no fórum sobre esse problema, você poderia imaginar o que teria acontecido. Eu provavelmente seria banido, especialmente 99,9 dos membros ingenuamente adorá-lo como Forex God / Guru que nunca está errado. Como você, eu acho que alguns de seus ensinamentos e técnicas são úteis e eu não quero ser expulso por ter me tornado um denunciante. Acho que pararia de comentar a partir deste ponto. Obrigado por ouvir e agradeço sua posição. Espero que no futuro, se algo de ruim estiver realmente acontecendo, você possa ficar de pé e proteger esses membros de serem roubados. OK John obrigado. Eu acho que você pode achar que os fóruns não são moderados. Você pode postar imediatamente. Eu fui o primeiro a desafiar Pottorff Chris não por causa de seu conteúdo, mas por causa do uso do nome que me pareceu bastante estranho, embora nos e-mails ele reclamou da censura, mas veio ao fórum perguntar por que Chris Pottorff era um man8221. Tenho certeza de que, se eu me chamasse traderlj e perguntasse por que jltrader era um homem mau, eu provavelmente ficaria com pouca atenção também. Foi só muito mais tarde que Chris P entrou na discussão do fórum e depois recomendou que alertássemos a equipe de postagens inconvenientes, de modo que presumi que os fóruns não eram moderados. Sim, você seria banido eventualmente, mas você pode ter salvado muitos novatos ingênuos. Por favor, não me interpretem mal, eu realmente agradeço seus comentários, mas há uma contradição entre sua opinião e não querer ser um delator que eu sinto. Não há necessidade de responder, mas obrigado por me ouvir também. Como o que eu esperava, o tópico. 8220Security Issue Estou recebendo acesso estranho ao meu perfil8221 foi removido do site FXKeys. John e Linz, eu também sou um membro e fxkeys. De fato, não há Chris que esse cara seja Vahid. Precisamos alertar essas pessoas, mas sugiro que discutamos em particular como Vahid, que estou vendo isso. Temos que encontrar uma maneira de nos comunicar com essas pessoas. Eu também sou membro de fxkeys e também tenho acompanhado este blog, embora ainda não tenha sido oferecido nada por uma taxa em fxkeys, mas ainda não tenho certeza do motivo deste site. Admito que aprendi muito no site. É difícil confirmar se é útil ou não. veremos Não há como você se comunicar com outros membros, pois Vahid desabilitou mensagens / e-mails privados em seu fórum. A única maneira que você pode se comunicar é postar no fórum e esperar que outro membro da equipe responda. Mas como eu disse, ele rapidamente censurou o tópico e se livrou dele como antes. Today Vahid is making a post on the forum with title: 8220Bugs, Errors and Problems8221, go and see for yourself. In his post he mentioned that his website is under hacker attack by some Forex scam who wants to steal his traffic (do you believe that) and set some rules. By reading his rules, I could basically take assumption that he doesn8217t want us to talk about anything against him/relate him to Vahid in the forum. Like the topic few days ago that was pulled out, I don8217t see any security related issue being discussed in the forum. People only reporting that they are getting different profile other than themselves. It8217s just because someone capture image with Vahid name in it. John removal of the post is vindication for you so point taken. So far Chris (or Vahid) has answered all my technical questions politely and he is very informed so I have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. However I am not the one to believe just because I want my belief to be true. When people trust it is easy to let your guard down when given hope and the desire to belong to a caring family which is human nature. When it comes to money, that is where corruption can easily take place. So far no money is involved on this site, so no harm done. On that basis nobody can make any demands or say anything about his freedom to make any rules he likes on his own site. Having said that we can say what we like outside of the site. If you John and others are correct then I probably already have a red flag against my name because I have nothing to hide I always use the same name on every site and do not wish to change that. I notice Vahid Chaychi runs other websites. One is called Healthoma which may be a tenuous link but similar in name to Forexoma. If he8217s one and the same then he8217s a busy man. Several years ago Vahid Chaychi run a free website (weboma). He taught forex trading and published free forex signals. Few ears later he started his Forexoma Live Market Analysis and began sending buy sell signals through a new website (forexoma). Believe me or not but 20 a month was a piece of cake for him. If one had followed his signals he could have earned from 15 to 40 every single month (2 risk). A few years later Vahid with his friends (a group of traders) set up Forexoma brokerage (STP broker). The headquarters of Forexoma was in Toronto Vahid lived in Canada. The brokerage was not registered. I remember when a trader who was conscious of risk asked Vahid why his brokerage was not registered. Vahid accused him about spite. Then the headquarters was moved to Hong Kong (if I remember) and Forexoma brokerage began offering money management program (Vahid had dreamed about money management). They offered a few money management programs. They warranted rate of return Few months later the website of Forexoma brokerage disappeared from the Internet. Believe me or not but Vahid Chaychi has been the best forex trader I have ever met. His knowledge, discipline8230 and setups were eminent. He taught and practised not the same system he teaches and practises on FxKeys. I don8217t know if Vahid Chaychi was responsible for stealing money from traders but when Forexoma disappeared from the Internet Vahid dissapeared too. You seem to know a lot about him. Were you also one of his followers when he just started Forexoma Of course it8217s not sure if he was responsible for stealing money from traders or not, but by hiding his true identity, not using his own voice during webinar, censor anything that mention Vahid8217s name, you could have your own judgement. Hi John, My first post here: 8220Chris Pottorf doesnt exist. Chris Pottorf is a nickname of Vahid Chaychi the founder of Forexoma Brokerage then forex scam. Fxkeys belongs to V. Chaychi8221. Yes, I was one of his followers when he started Forexoma. Before Forexoma disappeared Vahid had written a message that he had sold his shares in Forexoma brokerage and worked for Forexoma as a consultant only (I didn8217t see the message). He hid his identity because he had stolen money or because he had been identified with Forexoma and traders accused him of stealing money. So, writing as Vahid Chaychi would not be wise for him. Only Vahid and his 8220group of traders8221 know if he is a criminal and should be imprisoned or if he is a honest man. Presuming he is one and the same man, then it8217s an error to hide his identity if he is innocent or only guilty by association. If later writing under a pseudonym, and an expose8217 happens then it8217s a much more difficult road back to establish innocence. For that reason alone if this guy truly is undercover then innocence is much more unlikely. Mark is straight right about Vahids trading skills and the system he used on Forexoma. System based on charts patterns breakouts with MACD and RSI indicating / confirming proper signals to enter. Vahid had also prog - rammed a very accurate EA called FCAR (Forex Charts Analyzer Robot) which plotted the patterns automaticly. Why an earth a such skilled Forex trader made so much efforts only to steal peoples money. If the scam is obvious it is not a scam at all. Everyone has seen those stupid 8220givemeabreak8221 Forex marketing videos where a poor skilled actor telling how you can be a millionaire by no time. Scamming is art and Vahid is a master of it. Yes I was scammed by Vahid Chaychi. Stay alerted Wow someone bravely posted and warned others that Chris is Vahid on his forum. And as predicted, no one believe of what he wrote and accused him of trying to attack Chris with his comment. Someone even linked this website on the post as well. Interesting to see how Chris/Vahid is going to respond on that. That person would probably get banned and the topic get removed like before He has replied and his answers are good enough for me. To my knowledge some red faces but no one has been banned because it needed to be cleared not punished. No need to say anything more except this has been a huge distraction from trading. An end to this drama now I say. Good that you have made a decision on where to stand. I would still stand at the edge of the coin. All of his answers always indicating that others (including JLTrader) are jealous of him and try to ruin FXKeys success by either saying his forex strategy is not good or either accusing him as Vahid Chaychi. I don8217t buy that answer. If FXKeys is already that big and success, he won8217t bother to ask all of his members to try to promote his site through social media. Go to Forex Factory and search a user name FXKeys, you could see how he post his daily articles on that forum and most of the people there don8217t even care. If FXKeys is that famous and success, his post will be flooded with many comments and praises. One side of coin 8211 Chris Porttoff does exists 8211 He is a very nice, understanding, forex guru with dedicated team that is trying to help others to become successful forex trader or even millionaire. Almost perfect like God. 8211 Believe people doesn8217t like his success by attacking his article, hacking his website and accusing him as Vahid Chaychi. 8211 In the process of developing forex program that will make its members consistently profitable and risk free Other side of coin 8211 Chris Porttoff is Vahid Chaychi 8211 Used to be forex guru but now run into hiding because of possibility stealing his members money through Forexoma brokerage 8211 In the process of trying to con his members again through different program scheme under FXKeys website Edge of the coin 8211 Don8217t care whether Chris or Vahid are same person or even exists 8211 Only want to learn his skills to improve trading success 8211 Keen to see the program offered but with more caution (if money involved, backed out) Surprisingly 90 of his members do believe that Chris exists even though proofs show otherwise. 1. He removed the pictures proof and post on his website that shows Vahid Chaychi is logging in to FXKeys website. Accusing that his website is under hacker attack by Market Marker that doesn8217t like his success. Why would a Market Maker hire a hacker and at the same time use a name Vahid Chaychi. Isn8217t it too coincidence 2. He is removed all Vahid Chaychi name on his forum, all the links showing the proof that Chris Porttoff articles are written in similar fashion to Vahid Chaychi as well a link to this JLtrader website. A proof that he doesn8217t want people to know. I always believe if I8217m not wrong then I would stand to it and not eliminating evidence. Removing evidences are showing that you are scared to be find out. 3. The layout of FXKeys website is exactly the same as Forexoma website before and he always arguing that people can copy others. 4. Never use real voices, but only robot, scared if people find out Chris and Vahid voices are the same. 5. List can go on if I want to dig it more. Hi, In his latest article Chris (Vahid) wrote (8230)Smart people like John Chow who is a famous blogger, look at haters as opportunities to make more money. () When you click on John Chow you will find this site: johnchow/driving-with-john-chow-how-to-deal-with-haters/ It8217s nice to see so many opinions here. I was the one who dared to post this website in the FxKeys forum. It was removed quickly and he found an answer to everything. You were right 8211 he is a master of blinding people, 90 of the people believe him. I8217m saying 90 because it has gotten much quieter in the forum since that happened. Some members haven8217t posted anything new, including me, because I felt uncomfortable. First I did regret posting this website in the forum, because I lost my 8220reputation8221 and people there will not take me seriously anymore if I continue posting with that nickname. But on the other hand, it is a very valuable lesson about psychology for me. It shows me again, that the crowd can be completely blinded if the put enough effort into it and everybody who stands up will be fought. I8217m still on the edge of the coin 8211 I hope you like the example from Kiyosaki That means I don8217t know what is true and who this guy really is. It seems more probable to me that Vahid and Chris are the same guy. The main reason for that is his writing style. He claims this site was bought 8211 so by that he tried to explain another experienced trader wrote the old articles, whereas he writes the new ones. But I don8217t think that8217s true, because the writing style, his vocabulary, his English, which is not native, it8217s all very very similar. Too much of a coincidence. So I8217ll stay a member of Fxkeys, I8217ll try to learn as much as possible about trading, because he is obviously a very good trader and the trading system he teaches really works. I8217m thankful for that. On the other hand I8217ll stay alert, esp. when it comes to his risk free trading program which he will launch soon. The fact that Vahid is obviously a programmer and knows a lot about search engine optimizing, writing blogs etc. shows me again, it8217s the same person. I8217ve read the comments you linked as well (John Chow) 8211 similar writing style, though it could be a coincidence, there is not so much to compare. Like I said, at the moment I don8217t care, because I learn a lot from him. But I8217m also shocked and I8217m trying to understand him. This guy is obviously very good at trading, so it can8217t be about money, why he is doing this blog / website. Maybe it8217s just his life and he has other goals now, like promoting a website. We don8217t know8230 I feel sorry for the guy who initially created the topic in the forum. I believe his intention is purely only want to let all other members know who Chris Porttoff is and he has no other agenda, but like you said 90 blinded members accusing him for trying to attack Chris and bring down FXKeys. Even yourself who tried to give explanation by looking at different side of coins get abused by them. These are two different things that they (including Chris) blended together, ie Chris (FXKeys) forex strategies and Chris is Vahid. Nothing is wrong with Chris (FXKeys) forex strategies and his website and like you, I appreciate all his time doing this to teach and help others to be successful in forex trading. The thing that is wrong in my opinion is Chris is a fake name used by a guy previously known to have con others. I can8217t stand seeing people adoring him like a guy who hardly have any mistakes in both personality, teaching, mentoring, etc in the forum but in fact he could be a possible con man. If you still have hearts and feeling for others, how could you actually accept that Most people who joined FXKeys are those who are beginners or fail many times in Forex and have lost hoped. They have high faith by joining the website and learning from Chris/Vahid so that they could reverse the situation and maybe one day become millionaire. Even Chris/Vahid is denying that he is a millionaire in the forum when someone brought that thing up, so that8217s contradict to what Chris/Vahid always emphasised. Imagine if at the end it doesn8217t turn out as per what they expected, they could become worse than now. Let8217s see 8211 time will show us. I feel sorry for the guy who started the topic as well, because he is in the same situation like me 8211 we cannot continue posting there 8211 everybody has hard feelings and thinks we don8217t like Chris. But it doesn8217t really matter 8211 the only reason people comment on every topic there is because they have high hopes in terms of the risk-free trading program and they need points for that 8211 it seems to work like some kind of torrent network later. I personally think we have to apply the principles of our trading psychology, risk management and perhaps most importantly our psychology which will lead us to success. So what I8217m saying is we are responsible and people have done it before 8211 some people seem to think the risk-free trading program will do the work for them. So as you said, so far there is nothing wrong with Fxkeys, it8217s one of the best educational sites in terms of forex in my opinion. I8217m thankful for that and I hope some time in the future we will find out what all that is really about. People have always different goals in life 8211 maybe now his goal is to be successful in promoting a website, we don8217t know that. Happy trading Hi John you are wrong: 8220(8230)Even Chris/Vahid is denying that he is a millionaire in the forum when someone brought that thing up,(..) 8220Chris Pottorff: September 7, 2014 at 9:37 am You are a millionaire when you have a million dollars at least. So yes, we are millionaires.8221 Yes he is saying sentences that on his reply to this topic fxkeys/why-do-i-love-the-daily-chart/ But see his answer below when replying to Roaelctriuos question (the very bottom). He is denying that he is a millionaire. That8217s why I said it is a contradiction. roaelctriuos wrote: you didnt give us one good reason why you doing all this We want to create a community of millionaires. We want to make this site, and the incoming sites, as the biggest reference of business, investment and wealth. We want to Do these suffice as the reasons you want to know, or still want more reasons Are these reasons enough for you to trust us, or you can still think that we are scam Lets say you are right and I havent give you any reasons so far. You can keep on using the site as long as you think it is still useful for you. Once you see that you dont like it anymore, you can leave and never come back. It is free, both to visit and to leave the site, isnt it Is giving no reasons for having this site, a good reason to sabotage it, which is what Singh has been trying to do Please think before you talk. roaelctriuos wrote: you are keep telling us that you are a Millionaire Where did I say that. Can you show me that page, article, or. It seems you are also interested in creating rumors against the others. Am I right I8217ve been following this Chris entity ever since the site was launched some years ago. It had a large break with no posts and then bam a new post each day. First of all, I learned a lot from the site for free although the information can be found for free elsewhere. Second, the misinformation is really dangerous. He stresses about 8220money management8221 and 8220100/100 setups8221(how does he score them is a mystery) and how one could add 20 to his equity monthly following this strategy. Which is a complete bs. While I have myself added up to 30 SOME months, I also have months where I don8217t trade at all because I see no good signals at all. His setups are not good for MY strategy. He analyses a lot of exotic pairs, suggests often going against the dominant trend just because there is some of his 8220dark cloud8221 crap after yet another high and the double bolinger band strategy seems valid but no way one could constantly make 3:1 Reward/Risk with these ones. Tbh the way he presents the forex market reality is as if it is a computer game where the gamer/trader gets points and percentages from so called token setups. Third 8211 his agenda is about to be revealed soon with this 8220risk free8221 juju he is about to launch. Since I am registered, I hope to be able to see what the fuss was all about, but I am almost certain it will do more harm than good. HOPE the many users on the forum and site don8217t get hurt too much for believing. P. S. I8217m certain Vahid is behind the site. He also fabricated another contributor Kamel who claims to have turned a small account in some thousands of cash in 6 weeks iirc. major lolzers. Exactly I totally agree with your comments and is what one sensible and smart person would think. However, it seems like the world is still full of naive people. If you read the comments on Fxkeys, most come from very naive newbies that are still not aware of the dirty jungle Forex actually is. I think Vashid is reading every single one of the comment made here, and he8217s now thinking of delaying/changing his strategy to deceive people and get their money. Well, I hope people open their eyes before it8217s too late. Hi, When I was a member of Vahid8217s Forexoma Live Market Analysis Program he told us that he was a Persian. Look at this website: FxKeys May performance: -4, no 100 setups EUR/AUD short (stop loss triggered) -2 95 setup CAD/CHF long (stop loss triggered) -2 Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Yes Mark. Eu concordo com você. I followed his analysis and do it 8220monkey see, monkey do8221 way on Demo account. The result of following 95-100 setup is not that good. Vahid Chris. I have absolutely no doubt. Why Here is why: I had subscribed to Forexoma and had created a email specifically for that. I didn8217t open live account because they never really answered regulation/tax questions clearly. I lost interest and stopped paying attention. I recently checked that email box and lo and behold 8211 i see Fxkey emails. I never ever subscribed to it. I looked at some articles and they looked similar to forexoma. I searched for Forexoma and they are gone Then i started feeling fishy and searched for Fxkey and vahid and here i am. Stay away unless you want to be a sucker. Você foi avisado. Hi, I totally agree that this Chris might be Vahid. I remember back in days when Forexoma started, it was being operated the same way this FxKeys is being operated. At first for a long time(until he gets a strong fan base to rob them) Vahid also offered advise and help for free and then He started his own broker company Forexoma. I have his Forexoma completely download in zip format back in July, 2011. JLTrader, John and others if you want I can provide you with the file to compare his Forexoma site with this FxKeys to see if he is really Vahid and is copying from his old Forexoma site. Cheers Humoom, please share the zip file so everybody can have a look and compared the websites. The risk free trading software is being released soon. I8217ll test it, but I8217ll install it on a separate computer which has no personal data, so whatever the software could be doing / sending elsewhere, I8217ll not be affected. Please do share your thoughts and research. Thanks and Cheers Thank you. I looked at the website. The articles look similar, the style of the comments is similar and the psychological principal of the website looks the same like FxKeys. Since I don8217t know what is true and who is behind FxKeys, so I try to stay objective as much as I can. So on the one hand it is possible, that Vahid created a new website, put a lot of effort into changing articles and is about to do something strange again. On the other hand, Chris claims that he bought the website. I like to think in probabilities. Let8217s assume Chris was right and he bought the website. I think it8217s unlikely that a person like Vahid who does not care about money sells his website and articles. People usually have a face, Chris doesn8217t, so it8217s unlikely that he is a real person. So again, I don8217t know it, I don8217t judge anything, but I think it8217s more likely that it is the same person. I8217ll be careful, so thank you guys. But I think nobody should try to warn the FxKeys members again, those who did just got smashed and Chris go even stronger after that 8211 his fanbase grew stronger etc. So there is nothing you can do, if you fight against it, it8217ll only make the community stronger, because all members have deep beliefs and trust him. So I won8217t do anything, but continue to learn from him, because he is a good trader and so far has offered everything for free. His risk free trading program, let8217s see what it is, it won8217t be a broker again, because he declined it in the last article. Because he wants people to trust him and he wants to be in integrity for now, I don8217t think he8217ll offer a brokerage service for now, but he might do it later on. This is obviously not about money. It might be an experiment (psychological) for him about influencing people, something like that. I posted here before (December 22, 2014) in regards to Fxkeys. There8217s no doubt in my mind that the unverifiable name and identity of this so called 8220Chris Portoff8221 is indeed Vahid Chaychi. If they are not the same person doing the writing/blogging, etc, a partnership and/or association has been created in the form of FxKeys. More appropriately I would call it: A front. This front (FxKeys) will operate as a FREE (not for long), educational, very open and accessible and harmless website dedicated to Forex trading. But they have already started to hint about 8220programs8221 to be unveiled in the near future. Whoever 8220Chris Portoff8221 is has exactly the same style and writing personality Vahid Chaychi had8230 very accessible, friendly, charming, yet never unprofessional. The style of writing and what the lessons are about and how it is expressed is 100 Forexoma (Chaychi8217s previous Forex Trading website that ended up exposed as a scam here. There are about a 20 plus red flags I8217ve detected that lead me to believe I8217m right8230 and I8217ll repeat: FxKeys is fronted by an unverifiable person/identity by the name of Chris Portoff who I believe is actually Vahid Chaychi himself. Is either that or the website itself has been fully developed and managed under the supervision, design, philosophy of Vahid Chaychi. This is my second post in this regard. Although luckily, I was not affected but Chaychi8217s previous scam, I was floored literally when I found out about it. I was very familiar with Forexoma since I hate to admit, someof the materials were very helpful and eye opening. However, that8217s exactly the catch and how the scam was designed to work. They will encourage you to no end with promises of possibilities and the way to riches only matchi ng a romance novel. I8217m warning you, the moment the programs and the asking for money begins8230. you are on your own. Don8217t say I didn8217t warn you. Let me put it this very simple way. As long as any of these self-proclaimed gurus don8217t show you their trading results (Forex Factory would be a great place to do so) you are very likely a candidate to be scammed. If you are great at what you do, why can8217t you publish it What better way to create a verifiable, trustworthy business and following You could make billions indeed if you could make money for everybody on the planet. Show your existing and official record And btw8230 I know of people who are succeeding in Forex, it8217s not impossible. You can learn it all by yourself with dedication and great deal of perseverance. You don8217t need to pay anybody. Best of Luck to You and hope your trading takes of to infinity. Very interesting to read all the pro and con comments here and thank you for those who have put an effort to warn us regarding Chris (aka Vahid) with his FXKeys website. I am a member too and to be honest, I personally also still puzzle with his current intention as it contradicted with his past action (if Chris is indeed Vahid) If you read about FXKeys goal (fxkeys/what-is-our-goal/ ), it is clearly mentioned that their intention is not about making money but for creating a community of traders, investors, entrepreneurs, millionaires and wealthy people. A community of those who already are, and also those who want to become financially free (I quote that from one paragraph in the link above). So if money is out from equation, I am assuming by creating this kind of community the creator will get a satisfaction or a pride of doing so (able to help other people) and this is where it becomes confusing to me. If something from small becoming big and popular, people will want to know who started/created it, they want to adore the creator for all the good things done, they want to meet him in person and if the creator is indeed Vahid using a fake name Chris how will he face those people and how will he get satisfaction of doing so by living in a lie. How can you have intention to help so many people after you have scam so many as well previously Hope you see the logic and my point here. Therefore I believe most people who have written here are sceptical and lean towards the negative side for Chris (aka Vahid) running FXKeys which is to scam another people in another way. Is it possible that Vahid is trying to atone all of his sins for taking millions from his Forexoma followers before and doing good deeds by living as Chris Porttoff now If you make a crime in the past (murder, rape, scam, etc) that make other people in disadvantage and able to avoid justice, will you be able to live peacefully by doing good deeds now Ladies and gentlemen, I8217m amazed this post has gathered so many comments. Makes me think of starting a forum on my site, absent of the negative aspects the existing trading forums have. I8217ll think this idea over during the weekend. Hey JLTrader, people will start accusing you stealing the traffic from FXKeys then if you starting your own forum. LOL Hi Rajj 8220If something from small becoming big and popular, people will want to know who started/created it, they want to adore the creator for all the good things done, they want to meet him in person and if the creator is indeed Vahid using a fake name Chris how will he face those people and how will he get satisfaction of doing so by living in a lie. How can you have intention to help so many people after you have scam so many as well previously Hope you see the logic and my point here8221. Do you remember The Stig (Top Gear) Stig Ben Collins Chris Pottorff Vahid Chaychi OK. I got what you mean. I was assuming differently before. Jeremy Clarkson is the brain/idea of the character Vahid Chaychi The Stig is the character that become famous Chris Porttoff Using your assumption, people will go back to my initial confusion. Stig Ben Collins intention is to make money through the show. He probably doesn8217t like being the Stig but just for the sake of getting paid as a job, but how about Chris Pottorff Vahid Chaychi since money is not his intention Well, everything is possible. Time will show On the one hand Chris has gotten more and more fans. You can see it in the General section of his forum 8211 I don8217t even bother to read that shit anymore when I see a topic called 8220thank you8221 or 8220we miss you8221. What I want to say is, although he has gotten more fans, the number of quality topics decreases. One month ago there were a lot of useful topics, now it seems members get less active and new people adore him. It8217s of course possible that he tries to make up for his actions in the past and just wants to help. We will see it soon. After all his broker articles and ECN broker articles last month, I was almost certain, he would present 8220the solution8221 with his own brokerage service, 8220the solution8221 because all brokers are so 8220evil8221. But he has clearly stated now, it is not about that, so let8217s see what happens. I agree with you tokra. I see that FxKeys8217 members are getting frustrated because they want to make money through forex trading but the system Chris/Vahid teaches them doesn8217t work properly, it doesn8217t give signals. Chris/Vahid told them that making 20 per month with this system is a piece of cake and they trusted him even though he had never made such rate of return with this system. They begun to understand that trading is not waiting only, but making money first. Members are getting less active Probably you are right Tokra. I could see his desperation asking people with trading system different from him to keep posting so that people will continue to follow Mark, how do you want us to rate FxKeys on forexpeacearmy FxKeys is not doing anything wrong at the moment. Just relax and wait to see what happens. Raj, if you8217re the same person on FxKeys with the fib thread in the forum, keep up the good work. It8217s the most educational thread in the forum Hi tokra, If FxKeys is not doing anything wrong rate it. I think that it is not too difficult to understand. May 0 or (-4), June 0 FxKeys June performance: 0, EUR/CAD long 8211 still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi He also got another website Vahid has launched his risk free trading program (phase 1) below: fxkeys/risk-free-trading-program-phase-1/ Basically the program will reward members with money that the website generated through google AdSense. The amount of money that member get is based on the point system he created (more points mean more money) and those money will be used to fund their Forex trading account, hence risk free. Each member need to apply and submit their own Google AdSense publisher ID and linked it to the website. Although he claimed that the money will be distributed to all his members and he won8217t get any but I still has doubt about it. This Google AdSense thing is totally new to me but compared to one person who has a website and want to generate traffic to Vahid8217s website utilizing all his members to generate traffic the difference could be massive if I imagined. Is there any limit that Google imposed on the website on how many AdSense id one can use on their website Someone who is expert on this could you please help to enlighten Also if you scroll down to the members comments on the linked I posted above, he deleted most of Ahamed Sha comment which make me suspicious that there are things that he doesn8217t want his members to know about it. I just cut and paste below: 821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212821282128212 Ahamed Sha July 10, 2015 at 12:58 pm Your idea is noble Chris Pottorff July 10, 2015 at 5:10 pm Thank you for your comment and sorry that I had to remove its main part because I didnt want it to poison the members minds. I talked about the points you had in your comment with my programmer, SEO and marketer friends and they did not admit it. There are some people around me who have several years of internet programming and marketing experience. This program is developed by them. By the way, thank you for your concern. Ahamed Sha July 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm Chris Pottorff July 10, 2015 at 6:31 pm Thank you again. We will think about it seriously. Any comment please Vahid is finally showing his real intention. Looking at how many websites/blogs that he runs, he is probably aiming to make passive income from online marketing/ads revenue, something that he is probably good at. Similarly to FXKeys website. The hardest thing to make a revenue is to driving traffic to it. Traffic is the lifeblood of your business because it generates income. That8217s why he is doing all he can to attract people coming to FXKeys, things like posting trading article, mentoring, risk free program (by sharing some of his revenue to members so that members would recruit another members, etc). Someone found another 2 interesting websites and it is possible linked to Chris aka vahid chaychi. I wanna highlight that fxkeys, chris had just removed me as a fxkeys member. I guess the reason was because recently i posted the other websites he runs which is as shown in below: Now it is very obvious that Chris is Vahid Chaychi. Beware guys, don8217t fall in his trap. I saw that when you posted all other websites of him And I decided not to answer because I did not want to be removed for now. I am just wanna share the true. Whether member or not, it is not that important for now. Forex needs practice. After hundreds members of FxKeys crowd had signed up for Google Adsense and had given to Chris all necessary data Chris wrote: 8220We changed our mind about working with adsense because many of our members couldnt get their accounts approved by adsense. We will work with some other alternatives. We will let you know. Nothing has to be done by you for now.8221 Do you know what he is up to his risk free program We will know soon8230 Google AdSense program was abandoned since Google doesn8217t allow people to link too many accounts to one website. Since the beginning when he asked his members to create individual account I have already sense something is not right. Google AdSense only allows 6 ads maximum (3 banners and 3 links) for one page and say he had 100 members successfully creating the account, how would he display their ads on the page based on his points system Due to allowable limit ads by Google, he needs to rotate all of his 100 members account so that everyone will get a fair chance for their ads to get displayed and clicked and earn money but this way won8217t be utilizing his point system much. Say he is utilizing his point system by displaying ads for his members with highest points longer than people with less points, still it doesn8217t guarantee members with their ads displayed longer to earn more money. It is still hit and miss, depending on their luck. I don8217t understand why he didn8217t just create AdSense with his account (1 account) and distribute the money through his point systems to his members. It is easier and fairer. I was amazed how most of his members just open the account straight away and give all the details to him without further thought. Chris was also lying when he told his member that he never opened AdSense account. If you look at those Vahid8217s websites posted here, you could see Google Ads were there :). Just be careful people and think smart. Sim. Você está certo. I am a beginner in trading. I went through the site fxkeys and I like the articles but after reading this I can8217t decide what to do. please suggest me what should I do. Please suggest me some site where I can learn trading thoroughly You can continue reading his posts but beware of his scam to request money from your pocket. I think he fails the fxkeys. It takes too long for progress. And also, his true face was exposed and easily google. Actually i did not mentioned he is the one who created those website i mentioned above. I was just saying i found interesting websites. Who knows, he removed me. So the intention behind of his action is clear enough to prove that he is vahid chaychi who was a scam in past of forexoma. Vahid/Chris must have read this website regularly reading by his latest article. Yes I guess we are all 8220vampier suckers8221 but only because we follow these two blogs we become caught between them but I ask how different are they82308230follow your own path, dont trust anyone, learn as much as you can, dont make opinions, be true to your self the rest will come. most important be free do not let others control or influence your decisions and emotions when we can do this we can be consistantly profitable traders Fxkeys is a scam It seems like Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi is a vampire sucker of himself too. Chris Pottorff is Vahid Chaychi. Vahid Chaychi is a scam for forexoma in past. How come he didn8217t get caught by Authorities for scamming people in the past He still have lots of websites running under his name so to trace him down shouldn8217t be that difficult. May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0 FxKeys July performance: 0, EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi Thumbs up for the effort. Mark, for your poor results in trading you showed you should only blame yourself. My results are consistently in profit, usually over 10 up to 25 and it is based on fxkeys teaching because my strategy i use and learnt comes only from fxkeys. Its a lot of talking and speculation here and you should rather focus on devoloping your skills in trading than too much talk unless you enjoy it then good luck People who are taking part in fxkeys forum, learn new things, then accusing Chris and call him a scammer should really consider leaving the Site. To me its hypocrisy I have never been lured into anything, never lied to, always found it genuine and positive. I learnt more than anyone can offer and that is the only prove its real and worth it. Obrigado. For getting caught logging into FXKeys as Vahid by some of his members (see this link: i57.tinypic/14vqtyc. jpg ) and for hiding/censoring/removing anything from FXKeys website that mention Vahid8217s name or website related to him has already make anyone suspicious enough that Chris is in fact Vahid the founder of Forexoma Brokerage scam. You are indeed very nave Marek and those people that Vahid is trying to recruit now. Good luck with your trading, hopefully you could become a millionaire one day I have never written that you Marek 8211 can8217t make 20 a month. How much money you make is not my business unless you public your setups. Chris/Vahid launches his setups pubicly so this is my business too. His setups don8217t make 20 a month that8217s a fact. I knew Vahid Chaychi, he was the founder of Forexoma Brokerage-forex scam. He has never denied that he didn8217t scammed traders. My obligation is to warn traders that Chris is Vahid and that they may be scammed by him again. May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0 EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi hehehehe. 822020 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake8221 what a piece of lethal bullshit. anyone in their right mind cant make such ridiculuous claims. shame on him for misleading ppl Kudos Mark for keeping score on FxKeys performance. Hopefully, some of the more delusional people who fell for this Vahid guy hook, line and sinker are now finally waking up to reality. halpin I like that 8216lethal bullshit8217 expression LOL I believe they have JLTrader I have been subscribed to the site for a while seems after the adsense BS now Vahid has lost some interest in persuing the sitenow he dosent post as many articles as before seems the site may have geen created for the sole pourpose of generating traffic for his profit some how I am no internet guru just a suggestion thanks for your blog by the way I hope Vahid does not give false hope to too many more new traders hey, i really dont know why people are treating him like god i can bet my life on the fact that people8217s hope of becoming a milionaire by making 8220only8221 20 a month by following his trading plan is merely naive8230 as a money manager myself ( on a small level though ). we all know how great a performance its considered if ur making low risk 40-50 a year. and how much effort its required. not that making calculation on a paper on how much weeks you are away from raking in millions by making 8220only 20 a month 8220.lol Vahid/Chris wanna wait for everything to calm down. Like his education, patience is the key. So, this blog has to be keep going to remind everyone including newbies. His plan has failed8230. In grave now. Well ladies and gentlemen, All your suspicions about him trying to sell something has come true. I was on his site and stumbled across a page that is not yet public, here is the link, go and have a look before Vahid takes it down: (changed name so I won8217t be banned from Fxkeys) 8220There is a 99 monthly fee to join the FxKeys Millionaires Club8221. There you go This guy is so desperate to take advantage of newbies. But, hey, if newbies still fall for that, they are not only naive, but downright stupid. If they don8217t have common sense they will never make it on this business. Finally finally8230 Well done guys. Great Job As i said, he fell in grave now. He won8217t success. I changed my name so I won8217t get banned on FxKeys. Please Marek and other member if you read that, don8217t be gullible and do some research first. This is a typical pyramid this guy is setting up. There is no value at the moment, nothing to sell, just future promises. The people on top of the pyramid earn the most 8211 I8217m confused because I thought this pyramid scheme would be illegal in many countries. I remember seeing a guy on LinkedIn years ago who promised similar things about his 8220travelling members8221. So let8217s face it. FxKeys has a lot of valueable information but this pyramid really stinks and makes me highly suspicious. My first thought was a pyramid scheme too. Jury8217s still out for me though so I must be a hedge trader Chris did say it was risk free and it8217s not if there is a joining fee. However having said that, I8217ve lost much more than that just trading. No drama. But I do not wish to be part of a pyramid scheme if that is true. By the way I8217m not going to hide behind a pseudonym. If you feel you have to because you don8217t want to be banned from the site then are you not the same as what you criticize You must feel there is some value there or you are undecided but still snipe from the sidelines. Marek is identifiable and so am I. If I get banned for appearing on here then too bad. If you worry about the site being a scam, then leave. Linz, you8217re shooting the messenger here. Whether you choose to hide behind another name or use your real name, isn8217t the issue here as long as you report facts and not fiction, would you agree I chose not to use my name because I use the Fxkeys for other purposes, I learnt valuable lessons from the site, and I intend to keep it that way. I merely reported what8217s published on Fxkeys site to confirm what people in here (JLTrader) have been saying for months, that8217s all. Had I known that Chris/Vahid won8217t punish me (ban me) for merely reporting his sales pitch, I would gladly publish my name, but as we all know, no one really knows how he would react/behave, so the safest choice is to use different name. I won8217t be joining his club as I8217m against pyramid schemes, period. On top of that It will be anything but risk free (99 monthly fee). Remember, focus on the message not the messenger. Sorry but I disagree. You8217re not reporting fact but speculation and opinion. You may well be right but until he8217s had a chance to explain to quell member8217s fears you are jumping the gun. But at the same time, you want to benefit from what he offers for free so you remain anonymous. Quote: 8220I chose not to use my name because I use the Fxkeys for other purposes, I learnt valuable lessons from the site, and I intend to keep it that way.8221 8220Use8221 being the operative word. I don8217t like that. I would feel uncomfortable with that. You should front up. That8217s ok Linz, I8217m not here to convince you or defend my decisions. You draw your own conclusions, I8217ll draw mine. I8217m totally ok with staying anonymous, while you8217re not, that8217s why I love life, each person is unique and that makes living interesting In the meantime, happy trading Chris/Vahid is a generous guy when it come to educating people to be winners in the forex business, so I have absolutely nothing against him in that regard. What I find hard to believe is that he8217s charging 99/month to be part of his club (yes, I know he said you8217ll get most of it back IF you8217re an active member) to generate money so we can use that to trade with, and at the same time he8217s saying his main aim with Fxkeys is to help the guys who don8217t have money to open a live account (hence risk 8216free8217 program). I remember in his comments saying he wants to help traders who are good traders (demonstrated solid positive trading results in demo account over an extended period of time) but have no money to start trading live, because they8217re so poor or for other reasons. And yet he wants them to pay him 99/month. That8217s a fortune in many places in the world. If those guys have a spare 100/month, guess what In a year they can open a live account with 1200 in it. I see a big flaw in his claimed 8216noble8217 objective compared to his actions. Hey guys Just noticed some incoming traffic from this link fxkeys/forums/topic/millionaire-club/page/2/ and went there to see what8217s going on. I found this post, by Andrew M: I may get banned for posting this but here we go there is a forum following Fxkeys I dont know who this guy called JLtrader is but he has a blog here although he has many claims against Chris and Fxkeys he does not like to share his real name or identity but claims to deface fraudulent forex web sites so new traders dont get caught by surprise, it seems strange to me that he claims to be a successful trader and offers a mentoring service for a fee but criticizes fxkeys for not showing proof of their success eg myfxbook account but he too will not show proof of his trading success I think I will give up on forex for now even though I have great passion for the currency market it is almost impossible to find good real advice and mentoring maybe this is not a market for retail traders good luck my friends I wish you all success and happiness Dear Andrew M: Let me congratulate you on your decision to give up forex. You are TOO THICK for trading, and I8217m not saying this as an insult, but as a statement of fact. I have an About page ever since I started this site, yet it seems you haven8217t noticed it, otherwise you wouldn8217t say I don8217t give my real name or hide my identity. Did you ask to skype with me to convince yourself that8217s really who I am in that picture and I refused. No. As for proof of trading success, I think I8217ve explained the situation clearly enough in the Mentoring page, but I8217m not expecting someone like you to understand it. Thank you Jltrader for your insults you can go ahead and delete this post before too many people see it just like Chris did but I believe you are not a trader at all you are a blogger or marketer trying to make money off the internet if you were a real trader who makes a living trading why would you want to teach anyone or is it just because you a such a great person and want to help no wants to buy your mentoring no need to reply i wont read it I dont have time to waist on these bs forex forums anymore Chris has just confirmed (by not denying the content) that the 8220Millionaires8221 club article is intended to be published to the public in the future, but it wasn8217t meant to be public for now. So in essence, everything in the article is true, and there is no jumping the guns here as some die hard fans would like us to believe. That8217s how Chris sees the risk 8220free8221 program (once the article is made public). As I stated before, I like to bring facts, not fiction, so here is the link to Chris8217 reply, which if you read it objectively, it was only a matter of time before releasing the article: fxkeys/forums/topic/millionaire-club/page/3/post-54227 I don8217t visit FXKeys much because I have a busy life, so I read articles from time to time and comment very rarely compared to some. I came across JLTrader8217s site and this thread before I joined FXKeys because I googled Chris Portoff8217s name as a precaution like I usually do. That was a little after this thread had got underway so my eyes were already open, as many on FXKeys are but say nothing. Your obvious reference to me as a die hard fan of FXKeys is inaccurate. That is a backhander from you because I pulled you up on your hypocrisy. If you read my previous post properly I said indeed you may well be right. I simply prefer some objectivity before you rush to judgement in your determination to be right. I also prefer all the evidence to be in before a verdict is reached and a right of reply is given. He is aware that some are saying MLM scheme and he has answered it is not because MLM is illegal. Unlike you I have no idea yet. Essentially I have no problem with you expressing your democratic opinion at all and like I said you and others on here may well be right. My objection was around your obvious joy that you had finally uncovered a crook while at the same time remaining undercover so you can say whatever you like without penalty to your chances of obtaining benefit from the very man you campaign against. Thank you for your reply. I learnt long time ago to not get into time wasting arguments. For this very reason, I only will say I presented you with what I believed are facts. It8217s up to you what you8217ll do with it. May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0, September 0 EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi Marek8217s earlier reply of 10-25 in defense of FXKeys may provide some proof that the teachings there do work. On the site Marek8217s comments lead me to believe he is an honest guy so I believe him. He is quite a knowledge himself. Not my own personal trading experience but that is because I don8217t have enough time to seriously trade much and I think you have to be pretty time dedicated especially in the learning stages. I8217m not aware of FXKeys ever recommending trades but rather analysis which is a guide only, so your percentage points don8217t mean much unless this is your own trading based on your own interpretations. EURCAD long still open would have given by now a really solid return if you had a reasonable account/lot size to handle the retracements. It has been on the upside for 5 months now. Maybe that8217s how you achieve 20. Wowzer, so much thing has had happened while I was away. To be honest if you want to spend money for membership, it is better to spend yours on known people like Jarrat Davies or Kathy Lien. Well known people in Forex with real track records, identities, offices etc rather than fake Mr Pottorff. His initial plan would probably launched faster if this website doesn8217t exists. Less and less analysis on his website as he is now concentrating on how to make money only. Thanks JLTrader for keeping this website alive and warning us. Although what you had warned us has more to do with unrealistic FXKeys trading plan but by coming to this website I did find out from other posters here that Chris is actually Vahid who has previously conned people. Hope all of his members will realize soon that when everything is too good to be true, then they should handle it with great care. FxKeys trade setup: Yes FXKeys confirms a long CHFJPY setup by analysis, but I quote: 8220Do I take this long trade setup I trade support/resistance breakouts also, but I am used to take much stronger setups usually on weekly and monthly time frames. So the answer is no :)8221 Not sure what your last reference means in this case, please explain. I don8217t read Vahid8217s-Chris8217 analysis. When he marks stop los levels on a chart I recognize it as a trade setup. Then if you don8217t read the analysis before you attempt to establish credible argument by posting set ups as recommendations, it is spurious and misleading. But don8217t let facts get in the way of your own agenda C8217mon, some due diligence is in order here if you have a point to prove. If your English was not native I would think that you are Vahid Chaychi. so you must be his advocate, or rather devil8217s advocate. What Linz mentioned is fair and to the point. Attacking other people instead of focusing on the issue at hand is just childish to say the least. Linz has put forward a very strong and valid argument in my opinion, and instead of giving a convincing counter-argument, you resorted to personal attack Tell us why you would track trade set up when clearly Chris/Vahid said he won8217t trade it (Just because he puts stop loss is a lame argument) Another point, Chris/Vahid doesn8217t tell us when he is out of a trade, so maybe he had closed his EURCAD trade a while ago and you8217re still track it (maybe hoping it comes around to hit SL to 8216prove8217 your point). I hope you don8217t label me as devil8217s advocate To your first question I had answered before you put it: I dont read Vahids-Chris analysis. When he marks stop los levels on a chart I recognize it as a trade setup. If you had looked at the chart you would have seen that this position8230 Look at the chart8230 You are right this was not a trade setup. To your next question Vahid/Chris answered seweral times: He opens two positions. One with R/R 1/5 and second without TP. When his first position reaches TP he moves SL of his second position to break even. He wrote about his money management strategy several times, but I see that you don8217t like taking the facts into account. It is not my problem. We discuss here about reality not about someone8217s fancy. The issue is this sentence: Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). and this: Chris Pottorf doesnt exist. Chris Pottorf is a nickname of Vahid Chaychi the founder of Forexoma Brokerage then forex scam. Fxkeys belongs to V. Chaychi. Try deny the facts. I don8217t label you as devil8217s advocate, I think your IQ is below medium. If you have questions use your brain and try to be objective. Mark, I knew you would be creative in labelling me with something to shift the discussion to trivial matters, you certainly didn8217t disappoint me Let8217s just go back to the EURCAD, don8217t you think Chris/Vahid or anyone else who took that trade with riskier stop loss would have had 5xSL profit target hit in the 1st position and moved the SL to BE in 2nd positioin Isn8217t that a fact you8217re trying to convince us that you only talk facts. Shouldn8217t you change the EURCAD from 8216Open8217 to 82168217 (besides that doesn8217t means anything, as each trader risk is different from each other). This is what I observed from your previous posts, it8217s clear to me that you have an end goal already set (ChrisVahid the scammer), now it8217s about bending facts and omitting the obvious to reach that goal. Linz has nailed it when he said you already have an agenda and you8217ll pursue it till the end, and if anything comes up that doesn8217t support it, you8217ll turn a blind eye or minimize its impact. Not everyone here is an amateur traders or illogic person, some here have been around the block several times, so try to be fair if you really only care about facts. As for describing me that I have a lower than average IQ, I respect your judgement about me even though you don8217t know me and never met me. and that says a lot about you. Mark, I don8217t follow your logic at all. You first posted: 8220FXKeys trade set-up: CHFJPY long.8221 Then you recognize FXKeys Stop loss level on a chart as a set up. But now you say, if you look at the chart it is not a set up although it has 3 Stop Loss levels. To me a mass of contradictions. So why did you post it originally as was Adam8217s question and my own You speak of facts. Because you post someone8217s opinion that Chaychi is Pottorff does not make it a fact. That is not proven despite a fair amount of coincidence. You ask Adam to be objective but I don8217t see much objectivity or clarity from you at all. You then call into question Adam8217s intelligence which is more abuse because clearly his is well above medium. You lash out when you are found wanting. BTW I am not Chaychi, Pottorff or even his or the devil8217s advocate. I am an advocate of a fair hearing and of valid arguments that hold some integrity. Attacking members personally on here does not do your cause much good at all. Linz, there is no need to defend yourself when others accuse you when you speak facts, there will always be people accusing you of laughable stuff. Just smile and say 8216ahmm8230intersting8217 and leave it at that. People who attack others love to see a reaction of the same magnitude or bigger for them to feel satisfied and happy. But when you absorb their attacks and don8217t react, you cut off the supply of oxygen that feeds the raging fire inside them, and they8217re lost as to whether to up their attacks a notch or withdraw altogether, because they rarely face people with high EQ, there are not many around. People of substance will always discuss topics at hand and never blindly throw accusations about someone else8217s personality, they stick to the debate. I asked you Adam: If you have questions use your brain and try to be objective EUR/CAD still open, with riskier SL too When the second position reaches SL or TP I will post it Don, t you think you are not serious Or maybe you are one of Vahids Forexoma Brokerage friends who scammed hundreds of traders and you do him and yourself a favour to scam people again Linz, When I posted CHF/JPY setup it was profitable. That was my objectivity. If you had looked at the chart you would have seen everything. We are here to warn traders against FxKeys. I believe we have done good work and a lot of people know who is behind FxKeys and what plans those people have. A risk free program came to naught then was changed into the Ponzi Scheme what is a crime. It is not the end, and we will supervise and monitor FxKeys further and alert traders 8211 here on the JL Trader8217s website. Pyramid schemes follow a predictable formula. Usually, one person, known as the recruiter, will create a fraudulent business which requires others to pay a fee to join. The people he recruits to the business then recruit others to join as well, and pocket the fees. This cycle of recruitment is supposed to continue indefinitely, so that everyone who joins the business will continue to receive the recruitment fees of the newest recruits. The problem with successful pyramids is that, eventually, there will be no one left to join the pyramid, and those already in the scheme will lose their investment. the Federal Trade Commission has occasionally prosecuted pyramid schemes as deceptive trade practices, or fraud. I do know that we here spoiled FxKeys plans. Be careful, I might sneak in to your trading account and take all the cents in it ( assuming you trade real account). All the best buddy, you made my day today, and for that I thank you Haha Mark you carry on posting FXKeys setups as proof that Pottorff is a bad trader even if he states he won8217t take the set ups and thank you for explaining to me all about ponzi/pyramid schemes too, but I think it8217s well covered. Thank you for your lesson on objectivity. But please try to discern the difference between fact and conjecture, and proof and opinion. You 8220know8221 and assume so much but it may be better to use words such as 8220maybe8221 or 8220perhaps8221 which would better present your arguments in a more believable form. Otherwise it betrays your enthusiasm to be right and superior before proof is established. That8217s why I mentioned due diligence, with less emotion, which is a requirement if you want to slander someone. You have accused both me and Adam as advocates and scammers and therefore in cahoots because we found your own analysis lazy, and yet if you look further back me and Adam crossed swords too but albeit in a dignified way without abusing each other. In your self confessed objectivity you should have seen that. May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0, September 0, October 0 EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi No fxkeys performance analysis May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0, September 0, October 0, November 0 EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi FXKeys trading signals 0 RXKeys trading recommendations 0 FXKeys trade following service 0 FXKeys subscription fees 0 FXKeys trading strategies, up to you FXKeys trade exits, up to you FXKeys risk/ reward ratios, up to you FXKeys member8217s real profitability data uncollected FXKeys methodologies and technical data are free and not prescribed All information is at trader8217s risk as defined by law so up to you to decide if useful or not Therefore a 0 win rate statistic is a theoretical pissing in the wind 100 FXKeys trading signals 8211 as much as one can see in FxKeys performance analysis. RXKeys trading recommendations FxKeys trade setups. Its up to FxKeys followers if they want to follow Chris/Vahids trade setups or not. FXKeys trade following service 1) The First Risk Free Program came to nothing. 2) The FxKeys Millionaire Club (the Second Risk Free Program) came to nothing. FXKeys subscription fees 8211 The FxKeys Millionaire Club 8211 100 monthly pay. FXKeys trading strategies 8211 Bollinger Bands Breakout. FXKeys trade exits 8211 1st. position 1:5, second position bigger. FXKeys risk/ reward ratios 1st. position 15, second bigger. FXKeys members real profitability data the same as in FxKeys performance analysis. FXKeys methodologies and technical data 8211 Its up to FxKeys followers if they want to follow Chris/Vahids trade setups. All information is at traders risk as defined by law so up to you to decide if useful or not Therefore a 0 win rate statistic is the FXKeys members real profitability data. Mark, if that8217s your real name, I am grateful to FXKeys for the trading info provided free and you also are probably still a member albeit undercover so you will not get excluded from any benefits you might receive from whom you criticize so readily. I really don8217t know what the intentions of FXKeys were or are but you seem to know everything. The risk free program of obtaining revenue from advertisers8217 on that site and members being able to tap into that on a points system for real trading was an interesting new idea on face value, but apparently met technical difficulties. You can presume other reasons but that8217s just a guessing game so I refuse to get excited about stuff that may or may not be real. That includes the so called Millionaire8217s club. My only hesitation was paying for something which contradicted the 8216risk free8217 philosophy stated from the beginning. I think many members felt that but it was never officially released (because of criticism or why I know not but you will) and it was an idea that has not yet got off the ground therefore no harm done. So I have to judge only on what actually exists at this point, and that is there is no trade copying service or fees to pay therefore the owner of the site is answerable to no one and is entitled to do or say whatever he likes including analysis which members can follow or not. And you can keep posting monthly win/lose rates based on imaginary entries if you have the time. I suspect you lost money and blame FXKeys for that, hence the bitterness. Meanwhile I would rather put energy into mastering trading. You can carry on with being a master sleuth if you want, but you are wasting your time in my view trying to prove a point until you have some real evidence of ill intent and injured parties there are much more important concerns in this world. I wish you trading success May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0, September 0, October 0, November 0, December 0 EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi Can you explain how you derived those results If you look at 8220Chris8221 articles, he did open some trades according to his analysis. Surely there are some profits from one of those set ups and also mentioned by him Like many, I want to understand and get balanced views of Fxkeys. Felicidades. No matter how, Chris is a liar. But what is good is he is willing to share his knowledge to us and thus it was benefited. His contribution (hook) had lost its magic to pull us in to his fraud. Hi all,, I am also a FXkeys follower, so far I feel an incredible sensation of FOREX trading, Chris and Colleagues tutor very useful. also very precise analysis . If you want to know my transaction history based on the FXkeys analysis. please email to 8221 x6ex6fx65110gdex6dx61x40103maix6cx2ex63111m 8221 I will be send my CSV File : 8211 Historical analysis of FXkeys by Chris Pottorrf - period Feb821713 to Jul821715) 8211 History of my demo trading - period Apr821713 to Oct821714 8211 History of my real account - period Jan821715 till now If you want. i can send you my micro lot account number and password 8212 From 10 to 82. in six month 8212 In my experience, the first year with demo Account is not very good, but in 2014 there was a fairly rapid development, so in 2015 I decided to open a real account with an initial deposit of US 1000. Its growth is very impressive, now my account is already a US 37 852. There is wrong with that. Is there an advantage for FXkeys or Chris Pottorrff and Colleagues. Why are you so giddy about who8217s Chris /// Why do you have to insult us in FXkeys /// Why you so naive about who8217s Chris and how he /// This Earth is not your mom8217s. anyone can Comment and Analysis. Bravo FXkeys Happy Trading 8220EUR/CAD has also formed a long trade setup by 2015.06.29 candlestick on the daily chart. This setup is so similar to EUR/AUD, but it is stronger. The 2015.06.29 candlestick has closed above middle band while the market is bullish. The candlestick strength and Bollinger Lower Band breakout it has formed, plus the market direction on the daily chart, have formed a 100 score long trade setup8221. The first target reached. The second still open and it is looking very good so far. Since that day Chris/Vahid has not published any trade setup because the system he uses has not given any 100 trade setup except (if I remember) one but he missed it. Good Job, Mark. Appreciated your outcome. Good job Noeng. appreciate your outcome. May 0 or (-4), June 0, July 0, August 0, September 0, October 0, November 0, December 0. EUR/CAD long still open Making a 20 monthly profit for those who really pass the learning stages is a piece of cake. When I started writing on FxKeys and I talked about making this amount of profit, some people criticized that it is not possible to make this profit every month and professional traders say that even 5 monthly profit is too much. However, as I kept on writing on FxKeys, those traders who followed me precisely admitted that it is possible to make even 30 profit every month only by taking the 100 score setups.). Chris Pottorff/Vahid Chaychi Seem like the fxkeys website is down and off service. One less source of trading BS, misinformation and deception. Good riddance. Actually can not said it was 100 BS. There are something useful and kind of encouragement was giving in the articles. Hi Guys, I think we should gather all the fxkeys members somewhere else. Hope you guys see this message. I8217m very sad that FxKeys went down. I tried to suggest to establish an alternativ a few weeks/months ago but unfortunately people hoped that the website owner would come back. I do not know what happened 8211 maybe the owner died and contracts were quit 8211 because fxkeys the domain cannot be resolved anymore 8211 so the web hosting provider deleted everything as it seems. It does not matter what happened, there were some great people like Raj who did an excellent education in the forums. Just write here if you find this 8211 let8217s see how many members really find that page here in order to evaluate if it8217s worth it to put up a forum alternative. Sebastian i think he didn8217t die because he had replied someone message in his fxkey facebook page. I entered the facebook group I found on that blog, that would be a good way to get in touch again, but I8217m not sure how many fxkeys member will find these comments here, because some may be insulted and not continue reading when seeing the article. Could you please link the facebook page you meant where he replied someone8217s message That someone might have passed away was an idea, because the website was unfortunately a one-man show so if something happened to that person, after several months contracts would get quit including the web hosting stuff. Thanks, It doesn8217t seem anybody reads the stuff in here. The fxkeys DNS name cannot be resolved anymore, this does not usually happen by a technical error 8211 so somebody put the whole stuff offline on purpose. Any ideas for other forex communities to share trading ideas I don8217t want to pay for yet another course (e. g. learnToTradeTheMarkets etc.) they all have communities but you have to buy the course which is useless unless you8217re a total beginner. Alternative forum is better IF there is nothing that we can do about fxkeys Hi Sebastian, i found my way here but i dont know where Raj is. Keith Keith nice to see you, if you like to publish your e-mail address I8217ll write them all down 8211 let8217s give it one week or so to see if more people find their way here. Please post it on other sites too if you find anything 8220fxKeys8221 related so we have a chance to gather the members again: fxkeysforum/ Very sad to hear of the close down of FXkeys site. It seems to have been on the cards for some months. Just when I joined the site. I didn8217t get any feedback from the owner(s) of the site on my couple of enquiries. I got plenty of useful, and well-intended feedback from the sincere members. As you know, I have found the information on the site to be very useful. I had intended this week to review much of it, as I think going over it a few times helps to cement the ideas in your mind. Initially, I found the Bollinger band break-out strategy to be extremely successful. Of late, I have struggled to stay at break-even over a period of around 2 weeks. This, I believe, has been due to the fact that I have been 8220bending the rules8221 in order to take more trades. This is also, in itself, a valuable learning exercise. 8220Discipline8221 is key I am all for trying to gather the former Fxkeys guys together into another forum of some kind. So I am happy to hear about this connection here. Let8217s hope we can manage to salvage the 8220good things8221 from this mess. I would like to add that these insulting comments posted by several critics and supporters to only contribute to the bad taste that the mention of Forex Trading leaves in many people8217s mouths. I would be inclined to put some credibility to people who put forward logical arguments without resorting to insults and name-calling. All that stuff is very off-putting, and of extremely limited value. I hope we can keep future communications of this kind on a professional footing, and, more importantly, with a sincere intent to assist all members of the trading community, especially the newbies. Hi, sabastion genesis is right. we should get together on some other forum. FxKeys website has been removed from the internet so FxKeys performance analysis won8217t be continued, it is going without saying. Hi Vahid, I hope you will come back one day as Vahid Chaychi, the best trader I have ever met. It8217s over to you. Best regards It is with sorrow that I find fxkeys has gone off the air. After downloading a few articles for study purposes, the process became addictive. After Anglicising Chris8217 English, reformatting much of the prose, highlighting salient points and adding comments of my own in a blue text colour, I formed quite an extensive library of his ideas. The spread of so many different topics led to my having numerous files on different aspects. I am now ruing the fact that I didn8217t download more articles on salient ideas. The comments under articles provided numerous gems, which would be cut/pasted to the relevant file, while irrelevant 8220Thanks8221 etc would be deleted. Despite the negative comments of some critics and name-callers, whom I suspect have not been successful in their own FX endevours, nobody has had anything intelligent to say about perceived errors in the system proposed on the fxkeys website. 8220Methink he doth protest too much. 8221 What scammer would dedicate so many hours to writing well-researched, detailed and time-relevant articles, without ever asking for any recompense than the appreciation of those whom he was helping and he has helped so many people, by inspiring them to get off the 8216victim8217 list and get the self confidence to 8216have a go. 8217 Fxkeys will be sorely missed by so many, as is obvious from comments on this site Thanks must go to JL for allowing us to use this site to vent our sorrow over the loss of our lifeline. I was directed here, when looking for a reason for the absence of the fxkeys website. One of you tech-savvy youngsters must set up a site dedicated to promoting the simple trading system and providing a forum site for mutual self-help, where old fxkeys articles can be posted once again from our individual archives. I8217m sure I8217m not the only one who studied and annotated the articles. Since the origin would be credited and since it is for 8216educational and review purposes8217, it would probably be ethical amp legal. I8217m sure Chris would have no objections. In fact, he would probably be flattered to know that he is missed. Personally, I cannot understand how such a wealth of educational material has been allowed to disappear. What has happened to Kamel, Salmaan, Peter Wagner, Michael etc. You would have to check out copyright issues on articles before you publish anything, a lot of his writings were not all his apparently, like Peter Wagner8217s compilation. Peter was an independent contributor while I believe Kamel was a 8220trading buddy8221. Don8217t know if he was part of a team or an individual but there certainly was a lot of sincere people on the site and Chris put in a lot of time and always was very polite to me and always replied to my queries. Like a family which has it8217s emotional connections and therefore it8217s vulnerabilities. Because Chris never had an identity but rather an avatar was a problem for me because he could have solved that although a photo, still is not guarantee of real ID. video would be simpler. Also the site had no address, but like you do in a court of law people are always innocent until proven guilty and he may have had reasons unknown to me so that8217s the position I took. And I didn8217t like damning him and using him at the same time. The analysis and articles were always interesting and an easy read. Most people would have downloaded the 5 Easy Steps, so perhaps that8217s all you need. The FB page which I did not know about says the site will be back, so time will tell but other than that there was no communication or announcements of any kind on his site, not even a goodbye which was disconcerting if it now is final. Thanks to JL also for providing the website for discussion and never deleting any posts and a few did not like JL too Very important to have checks and balances. Cheers to all. It8217s the only FX forum worth being on and heavily moderated. Good community of smart guys sharing strategies and algo8217s. I am guessing that Chris is in Jail. It8217s a just a guess. I used to work for a gut that was perhaps like Chris. He thought he was brilliant, when in actual fact he just used to rip people off. He eventually ripped off the wrong people. They apparently cut off his head and he was found headless in a dumpster. True story Either way if he goes around ripping people off, then he is going to make people angry. They will find him him and get the law onto him or administer their own version of it on him. Either way ripping people off is a very dumb idea and why most people don8217t do it. You might get temporary gratification but the pain you get down the track will be alot worse and last a whole lot longer. Triste. I tested one of his systems and it was profitable You have links If not then that8217s just presumption and a sensational story. There are no facts of and no rip off or injured parties that I know of. Just a mystery and am happy to leave it there. See you all there. Beware We have to always remember that luckscout is fxkeys. Don8217t fall into scam trap again if they ask for money in the near future luckscout (fxkeys) (8230)We are a team of forex and stock traders who have been working with each other for years. We have regular meetings and are in touch through the Internet to share our knowledge, experience, and also the trade setups we locate. LuckScout was created by me, Chris Pottorff(8230) forexoma (8230)Forexoma was originally established by Vahid 8230 Through professional collaboration he was joined by some of his trading buddies and together they helped him achieve this goal. Like many individual traders, all of them wanted to have their own brokerage service for their own trades, and at the same time, a reliable brokerage service for everybody (8230) 8220WARNING: Forexoma Runs Away With Customer Funds Friday, August 23, 2013 10:28 am Forexoma, an online forex training and trading company seems to have disappeared into oblivion, along with exorbitant amounts of Customer Funds. At this very moment, efforts are being made to establish a contact with the ownership of Forexoma, however from the looks of it, chances are high that customers may never see a dime of their hard earned money but then they say 8211 Never Say Never. We at National Forex surely hope this to be true. National Forex News Desk team tried to load the Forexoma website, but not to our surprise, we found that the entire content of the website has been removed with little chance of customers accessing their online information8221 No you8217ve got it all wrong. Chris Porttoff is actually Bill Gates. And because I said so you have to believe me that it8217s true. Bill Gates owns Forexoma. I can8217t actually show you and legal document from a governing body proving that but I swear it8217s true. Just look at all these articles that Chris Porttorff wrote on Fxkeys, they are exactly the same as these other articles that Bill Gates name is on. So you see it must be true. And beware of Luckscout because for the last couple of years they have been peddling money from new traders and selling courses, training, signals and even recommending brokers where they get referral fees from. It8217s true, oh hang on, oops I got that one wrong. None of the above have actually happened but let8217s keep accusing them and talking about them as if they do do that This guy has a couple of threads and has posted several myfcbook accounts showing a 1-2 profit everyday for a couple of months. He8217s trying to discredit lucks out in his threads in hope people there will let him trade there money. Firstly, if he can consistently make 1-2 a day trading the 1 min chart then he doesn8217t need anyone8217s money because he will be a billionaire shortly Secondly, he8217s a scammer and is trying to manipulate newbies on luckscout and simply there is a lot that he claims that just doesn8217t add up, let alone the fact that myfcbook can8217t be trusted anyway, that8217s a whole other scam on its own, particularly with his broker oanda. He claims he trades like floor traders (fx)that work for banks. Well there are no fx floor traders mark, because there is no floor in forex. Also he goes on about 1500 floor traders that citibank(might of said another bank), well once again, no floor traders. They might have 1500 people taking currency orders, because they are a bank but that8217s different from trading for profit. Anyway I thought I8217d better bring this up somewhere so all the luckscout people reading this, have some common sense, don8217t be fooled by the prospect of riches Hello could someone explain for me why fx keys is a scam the article doesnt make any sense to me. I mean what would he try to acheive by lying It8217s a scam because the guy(s) behind it use a fake name and pretend to be what they are not. Moreover Chris aka Vahid blatantly BS his readers (see the 2 articles I wrote). He also has a history of scamming (in the truest sense of the word) people, google forexoma broker That8217s anybody8217s guess. Once you gather a large enough following of gullible people, there are many ways to fleece them. Thank you for answering that quick. Maybe forexoma was a scam as the reviews says but still, what do you think he is up to He is giving knowledge for free. What could possibly go wrong Have you noticed any flaw in the trading system he uses No, he writes some text on a website for free, that8217s what he does. What can possibly go wrong when you learn something from a fraudulent, zero credibility source You tell me. I don8217t agree that he is fraudulent. He hasn8217t yet ripped off anyone as far as I know. I8217m not saying he is honest either, I8217m just saying it8217s still speculation at the moment. Having said all of that, to answer your question movfiop, The harm comes from new traders getting unrealistic expectations. Besides the forum where it8217s the blind leading the blind, the major issue with the site and some of those free articles is that there is no information on the success rates of real traders, both professional and retail. This is what gives the reader an unrealistic expectation of trading. One of the articles in mind mentions one of his students who turned 5000 into 45000 in 40-50 days in a demo account. Whether or not this statement provided in the article is true or not is irrelevant. The real issue is that8217s not real trading and those kinds of results don8217t happen to most, if not all professional traders. The whole idea of been 70 accurate (which is also mentioned) just adds to the misconception. If read about any professional trader, both past and present, they almost always fit in the 40-60 range. And on a side note, you can have a low success rate and still make lots more than someone who has a much higher rate of success. Most people on that site think they can make a million in a year or less from 1-5000. Although possible history has proven time and time again that it never really happens. My own trading strat yields about 40 success rate and I can go as low as 25 before I end up in the red (statistically, not talking about draw downs) and yet I8217m still doing quite alright, making money slowly but surly. Anyways hope this helps Well it8217s pretty much official now. Luckscout has become what was predicted, and I had hoped so much it wouldn8217t. This program is meant to be getting launched and explained shortly. I don8217t know what it8217s about but there are some obvious red flags like 99 per month, join and become a millionaire etc etc. Such a shame, I learnt a lot from the early days of that site. Yet there are still suckers that believe in Chris/Vashid. I guess that if one sooo naive and stupid as to not see the obvious, it8217s better to lose your money on the scam and learn from that. Some people need to learn the hard way. Just an update. Lot of people are blindly signing up and those who are asking the right questions are getting the ring a round with answers. No track record, no indication as to what you will actually get for the money you spend, a lot of talk about a program but that means nothing. Even the other scammers out there give more detail as to what you8217re purchasing. 8216 Soros is worth 24 billion, does that mean he should do everything for free and not be paid for his services82178230 Well no Chris he should be paid for his services but he also has a track record and you don8217t Are the lies So many honest people getting shafted, such a shame. Oh yeah one more thing. Apparently the fees are to pay all the support staff/ mentors and tech for the program and to promote the program. Now according to google and Chris, luck scout has around 20000 followers, so if 1000 of them join the program at 99 per month, that8217s 100k a month or 1.2 million a year revenue. That8217s a lot of support staff lol Hi jl trader. Eu acho que. you have to open a new topic on google like8221 fxkeys ruining your trade account 8221 luck scout ruining your trading account. Because when anybody search that fraud website on the net. he should see similar connection in search results 8221 luckscout a fraud website 8221 like fxkeys And find an opportunity to read realities about luckscout So I think main reason to change website name from fxkeys to luckscout is make a barrier for new members to see warnings about that fraud website 8230. 8220Who Is Behind LuckScout Millionaires Club As I have explained here, we are a big team of successful traders, investors, businesspersons and entrepreneurs who many of them love to share their experiences with people who are interested8221. Hey The LuckScout People Are you sure Are you a big team of successful traders8230 Aren8217t you and your boss Vahid Chaychi money suckers and forex scams What about Forexoma Tell us the truth Are you a real men or cowards Great post just saved me 99 dollars a month Here you can find Forexoma site (previous scam by Vahid/Chris) online again : forexoma. eu/ All good teachings are there for free. No need to signup for the club Luckscout aka fxkeys is still very active nowadays. What is the millionaires club member about Anyone who joins can share about itMT4 ECN Forex brokers Besides MT4 ECN, some Forex brokers may also offer regular non-ECN accounts. Para evitar erros, gaste um minuto extra para comparar tipos e condições de contas em sites de corretores. 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